Claridge is proposing a new condo tower for their site at Breezehill and Somerset Streets, just west of the O-Train corridor. The site is between Devonshire school and Somerset, in the old Chinese market store (which was Acklands AutoSupply before that). (Pending zoning approvals etc the store is being renovated and rented out to a dollar store).
Immediately to the west of the site is a four storey red brick office building, opposite that is the 18 storey residential tower that looks like it might date from the sixties or early seventies.
Here in a nutshell is the neighborhood context:
The left picture, a typical helicopter planning view, is taken from somewhere southeast of the site, maybe above Preston Street. In the right picture our helicopter has flown us over Spadina Avenue, the existing 18 floor tower is visible on the left and the distinctive curved City Centre building is visible on the top right. There are already several high rises within three blocks or so of this proposed building (two on Bayswater; one at Somerset/WestWellington).
Claridge is proposing a 28 storey tower, with a 3 to 5 storey podium that actually reads like a real bit of building and isn’t just drawn on the base of the tower to pretend it is progressive planning.
The building podium will have commercial spaces wrapping around the Somerset faces:
As illustrated above, the second thru fifth floors of the podium are shown as residential uses. I don’t imagine this is locked down yet, and could very well turn out to be commercial spaces.
Claridge is offering residential “townhouse-style” units on the Breezehill, back, and lane sides:
If the past practices of Claridge are anything to go by, the townhouses are most likely to be “drawn on” the building and not really contribute to street level life. It will take vigilance on the part of the Community Association and the support of the Councillor to force these units to provide real, actual street level activity. This is best provided by ensuring they do not have “back doors” into the elevator lobby, garage, and internal corridors, so that people actually come and go by way of their front (exterior) doors and walkways.
Of the 271 units, a welcome 105 will be two bedroom. This is a pleasing shift towards some “family oriented” condos. Of course, he will also sell you a three bedroom unit, but at the typical construction selling price of $500 a foot these become rather pricey.
The proponent is asking to move the building back a bit further from the sidewalk along Somerset Street both to handle the slight grade elevation change along the block, and to provide additional sidewalk space for a cafe or sidewalk uses. As seen from the existing conditions photo (above, showing the former market in operation) the front sidewalk could stand to be a bit wider.
The garage to the building is off the public laneway that runs up through the centre of the block. It enters the building at its midpoint (see car entering garage in the right photo above). Claridge is proposing to widen the laneway to handle the traffic. And possibly to introduce measures to thwart traffic from going southwards past Devonshire school parking lot.
I’m not particularly happy with this lane access. While the exiting cars are facing the red brick office building, they will provide lots of traffic to cross the Somerset sidewalk at a midblock location, not far from either the Bayswater or Breezehill intersections. Unless the office building parking lot is fenced off, some exiting cars will cut through their lot to access Bayswater.
A better solution might put the garage entrance on the south edge of the lot, adjacent the playground. While this cuts the Breezehill sidewalk there is less pedestrian traffic on that street. This would require a slight redesign of the building to put apartments above the garage entrance. However, since the developer is proposing to provide daycare space valued at $300,000 as part of his community benefits (section 37-ish) , this could be located on the southeast corner too, allowing it direct access to the school playground (this side is the smallest-kids playground). Removing the townhouse units from this area is not a problem in my estimation, given the unlikeliness of them actually animating the dead strip of grass that is currently proposed to run along the south side of the building.
A condo on this site has the potential to provide some neighborhood housing and intensification without being directly adjacent much existing housing (there are a few low rise house conversions to the SW along Bayswater), it avoids a number of shadow issues, animates the least-lively section of Somerset, and offers residents easy access to transit (to Bayview via Breezehill north or via the new North/South multipurpose path to be constructed this summer, along the O-train corridor) and good views. In all, not a bad start.
It is also adjacent the Bayview-Carling CDP study area, which is pretty much committed to developing both sides of the O-Train corridor with high rises.
There will be a public meeting on the proposal on Wedn. March 7th, 7pm, at the Hintonburg Community Centre. Expect to hear a lot of complaints about height, traffic, the sacred need to provide free teacher parking, etc.
Thanks for the renderings. I couldn’t make the last meeting about this one and I think I’m also busy on the 7th, so it’s good to be able to get a sense of what’s being proposed.
I would not welcome a 28 storey condo building. The selling point of a cafe does not do it for me either, there is no shortage of cafes around already. Decrease the height, make Claridge bring in some traffic control measures that are going to benifit the school, create some parking for parents dropping there children offand then I would be happy. Where are all the new familys going to send there children to school? maybe Claridge could contribute to a Devonshire school expansion/renovation project.
Maybe the “traffic control measure” that would benefit the school would be to prohibit parents from driving their kids to school? Back in the dinosaur era when I was on my school PAC we stood outside the school and classified every car that went by the school. I think two drove through, all the rest were teachers driving to school (free parking!) and parents dropping kids off then accelerating away at high speed. A no stopping zone signage would be a cheap contribution from Claridge…
Thanks Eric, There will be a school council meeting tonight and I hope that we have a good discussion about the impacts of this proposal. 271 units is going to change the neighbourhood and impact the school greatly. Given the current pro-development climate, this will go forward in one form or another, the question is whether the community can get some benefits that mitigate the negative impacts. How many floors above current zoning is Claridge asking for? Proposed benefits should be in line with the scale of the developers benefits and the negative impacts. We need to also get the developer to present to the community…. I think being beside a school makes this a different discussion to some degree.
As a resident of this neighborhood, can someone explain to me what the negative impacts are? I have no love for Claridge, and it behooves residents to keep an eye on how this proposal develops, but my concerns are more about the quality of the building (appearance/materials/street interaction) that is actually built. 20 vs. 28 stories? Not an issue. Also — if anyone takes me up on this query, let me preemptively say that at this point, anything that makes driving and parking MORE inconvenient is, in my view, a positive.
The concerns voiced at yesterday’s community meeting include: increased traffic near Devonshire school (Claridge expects 40-90 cars/hour during rush hour) and violating the neighbourhood design plan which limits height along Somerset/Richmond to six stories.
Regarding parking: Claridge proposes roughly 300 parking spots for the building.
It sounds like most of the concerns are about dealing with motorists, and I share those — but as a pedestrian, not a driver.
In response to those concerns I guess I would say, somewhat facetiously, but mostly not, that at the intersection of Somerset and Breezehill there should be a pedestrian controlled stop light (i.e. pressing the button changes the light), and a red-light camera. There should be a crossing guard for mornings and afternoons as well. Let people drive if they want, but make. it. a. pain. More precisely, more of a pain that it currently is, in which the desires of drivers are priority one.
However, this seems to run completely counter to what the city views as “good planning” (see Bronson Ave.)
I was at the meeting at the Arena the night before for the CDP, but couldn’t make the meeting you reference. Sounds like I missed the more exciting of the two! Ugh!
Danny
Can a private company pay for the expanson for a school would i mean is this legal?
I wonder how Ontario’s new rules about glass buildings will apply: http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/lisa-rochon/tall-thin-curvy-gorgeous-and-heating-the-winter-sky/article2349311/?service=mobile